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PostSubject: Re: He got me again...   Wed Dec 17, 2008 6:39 pm

I think we should just give up we have throughly confused ourselves
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PostSubject: Re: He got me again...   Wed Dec 17, 2008 8:15 pm

agree..
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PostSubject: Re: He got me again...   Thu Dec 18, 2008 3:02 am

Ok, I'll give that a shot then.

I didn't mean to come across as snotty or anything Unstoppable, it's just that unfortunately any fleet of LF or BS that I tried to build up would be smashed to pieces long before it got to a 20% MS chance - and even then only 20% is a hell of a big risk for someone in my position, as losing that much and not getting a moon would take me weeks if not a month to recover from.

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PostSubject: Re: He got me again...   Thu Dec 18, 2008 10:35 am

Then try this

1. yes get 2 colony ships out in deep space.
2. on your home worlds G1 planets, build small cargos to raid as many inactive/actives as possible to increase resource production. When you have about 100k of each resource, excluding Deuterium( have at least 50k) send those resources to your G6 + planets.

Reminder you must fleet save properly, if you say theres guys timing you back then deploy fleetsave, but you must be online when that fleet lands or its gonna be your fault you lost your ships again.

3. Once your G6+ planets are built up, start making light fighters,
BUT FLEETSAVE up there to, I don't know how many times I've see ZGM member say I've been hit in G7 or in G8, Heck I've even been hit to up there.

This will take a while but what else you got?
Heck I didn't get my first moon til I was ranked 810th.

* I remembered because I wrote it in my Notes*

Take Kronos for example;

Hes Ranked 366th some where around there, Has No moon

Silent Killer Ranked some where around 418, No moon

JustinSP Ranked 500 , no moon , and he has 8.862 ships.

if they can do it, you can.
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PostSubject: Re: He got me again...   Thu Dec 18, 2008 4:15 pm

*proud of himself*

also make sure to remember planet distances when you colonize for best time/lowest fuel consumption

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PostSubject: Re: He got me again...   Thu Dec 18, 2008 5:24 pm

Silent Killer has also been playing for awhile and turtles, for future reference Smile. He's not really a relevant example of fleet saving. But true, you can be ranked high, and not have a moon.

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PostSubject: Re: He got me again...   Thu Dec 18, 2008 6:40 pm

lol I just noticed that about silent..... ^_^

kudos Justinsp, you've been hanging on with no moon.
Your gonna be even happier 'when' you get one, then you won't have to do deploy missions.
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PostSubject: Re: He got me again...   Thu Dec 18, 2008 7:11 pm

me and dagg are gonna try for one sometime.

*hugs audie*

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PostSubject: Re: He got me again...   Thu Dec 18, 2008 7:19 pm

Justinsp tell me are you a male or female?
I forgot...... its been a a while since I left ZGM....


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Lets hope your female..... lol
and if you are lets hope Kassie doesn't see this..... ^_^

If your a male.....

Sniped Don't you think about it....
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PostSubject: Re: He got me again...   Fri Dec 19, 2008 11:35 pm

hermapherdite?

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PostSubject: Re: He got me again...   Fri Dec 19, 2008 11:55 pm

if your one of them...

Then.....

Chainsaw Sniped 2 Smileys and a Cup Hit With Chair Chase Hammer Hang

Die...
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PostSubject: Re: He got me again...   Sat Dec 20, 2008 5:17 am

Im With Stupid

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PostSubject: Re: He got me again...   Sat Dec 20, 2008 4:02 pm

i was jk.....now i shall whip j00 Whip

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PostSubject: Re: He got me again...   Mon Dec 22, 2008 6:52 am


The following fleets met in battle:

Attacker: gocaps23
L.Cargo...8
Battleship...25

Defender: hellcat92
L.Cargo...2
R.Launcher...26
L.Laser...3
Ion C....11
S.Dome...1

-- After battle --

Attacker: gocaps23
L.Cargo...8 ( lost: 0 )
Battleship...25 ( lost: 0 )

Defender: hellcat92
Destroyed

The attacker has won the battle!
He captured
50.000 metal 33.594 crystal and 12.981 deuterium

The attacker lost a total of 0 units.
The defender lost a total of 190.000 units.
At these space coordinates now float 3.600 metal and 3.600 crystal.

Battle Result
(Assuming the attacker got the debris..)
Attacker gain: 103.775
Defender lost: 190.000
Total Damage: 190.000

Converted with Invader Skodge's CR Converter 3.5



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The following fleets met in battle:

Attacker: gocaps23
L.Cargo...10
Battleship...75

Defender: hellcat92
L.Cargo...1
L.Fighter...40
R.Launcher...26
L.Laser...5
H.Laser...7
Ion C....1
L.Dome...1

-- After battle --

Attacker: gocaps23
L.Cargo...10 ( lost: 0 )
Battleship...75 ( lost: 0 )

Defender: hellcat92
Destroyed

The attacker has won the battle!
He captured
48.624 metal 35.440 crystal and 40.408 deuterium

The attacker lost a total of 0 units.
The defender lost a total of 398.000 units.
At these space coordinates now float 37.800 metal and 13.800 crystal.

Battle Result
(Assuming the attacker got the debris..)
Attacker gain: 176.072
Defender lost: 398.000
Total Damage: 398.000

Converted with Invader Skodge's CR Converter 3.5



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The following fleets met in battle:

Attacker: gocaps23
L.Cargo...9
Battleship...5

Defender: hellcat92
S.Cargo...1
L.Cargo...1
Col. Ship...1
L.Laser...1

-- After battle --

Attacker: gocaps23
L.Cargo...9 ( lost: 0 )
Battleship...5 ( lost: 0 )

Defender: hellcat92
Destroyed

The attacker has won the battle!
He captured
75.000 metal 43.550 crystal and 20.578 deuterium

The attacker lost a total of 0 units.
The defender lost a total of 48.000 units.
At these space coordinates now float 5.400 metal and 8.400 crystal.

Battle Result
(Assuming the attacker got the debris..)
Attacker gain: 152.928
Defender lost: 48.000
Total Damage: 48.000

Converted with Invader Skodge's CR Converter 3.5



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The following fleets met in battle:

Attacker: gocaps23
L.Cargo...8
Battleship...25

Defender: hellcat92
L.Cargo...1
H.Fighter...15
R.Launcher...12
L.Laser...4
Ion C....2

-- After battle --

Attacker: gocaps23
L.Cargo...8 ( lost: 0 )
Battleship...25 ( lost: 0 )

Defender: hellcat92
Destroyed

The attacker has won the battle!
He captured
53.385 metal 21.312 crystal and 11.123 deuterium

The attacker lost a total of 0 units.
The defender lost a total of 210.000 units.
At these space coordinates now float 28.800 metal and 19.800 crystal.

Battle Result
(Assuming the attacker got the debris..)
Attacker gain: 134.420
Defender lost: 210.000
Total Damage: 210.000

Converted with Invader Skodge's CR Converter 3.5




The attacker has won the battle!
He captured
227.009 metal 133.896 crystal and 85.090 deuterium

Defender lost: 846.000

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PostSubject: Re: He got me again...   Mon Dec 22, 2008 10:28 am

Im not sure why he would attack you to make such a small profit.

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Attacker gain: 103.775


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PostSubject: Re: He got me again...   Mon Dec 22, 2008 11:16 am

I agree, I will have to talk to him about this.
But it look like you didn't fleet save or make a planet out in or above G6.
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PostSubject: Re: He got me again...   Mon Dec 22, 2008 11:39 am

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12-22 16:34:51 gocaps23 [1:208:10] Re:no subject answer

Hey...ok the story.

The first time I ever attacked him I timed it back...but he sent a message to Funk to try to timeback me. So I recalled after talking it over with Funk.

Since then...he never fleetsaves. Ever. I'm not doing it out of some sort of grudge or anything.

In fact, almost a week ago he sent me a message asking me if I attacked him for any particular reason...and that he was taking the advice of some of his alliance mates and was colonizing out in Galaxy 3 or further..and he asked he if I'd give him a few days to build up so he could do that properly.

I told him it was nothing personal at all...that I only attacked because he never fleetsaved...(and if you look in the area that he and I are in...it's either guys ranked in the top 150...or people still in noob protection. And a couple guys ranked in my range. So there aren't a lot of targets.)

But, I told him absolutely I would leave him alone for a few days...and gave him some tips on fleetsaving in the time being.

Then a few days ago I got HOF'd by Siobhan.

Then yesterday I was searching around and I probed him just to see what he was doing...and all of his mines were leveled off. All of his ships were just sitting there. So clearly he hadn't been playing in a few days...

And I need all the res I can get to rebuild my fleet. So...all of his stuff was just sitting there...so all of the attacks yesterday were just Spy & Fly.





Indeed mate, it is your fault then, You neither'd fleetsaved or anything.
You could sent out that Colony ship on that one planet but you didn't.
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PostSubject: Re: He got me again...   Mon Dec 22, 2008 5:17 pm

its not a big deal, you didnt lose hardly anything

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PostSubject: Re: He got me again...   Mon Dec 22, 2008 9:51 pm

He got me overnight while my colonisation ships were being built, nothing I could do about it.

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PostSubject: Re: He got me again...   Tue Dec 23, 2008 7:04 am

I had actually colonised several planets, but they all had so few fields that I simply deleted them - 60 fields won't help anything. The reason it may appear that my fleets are sitting there doing nothing is because I don't have enough duet to simply keep throwing out colonisation missions to g6 left right and center. It takes me a day to get 10k on my highest-mined planet. And also RE me supposedly not fleetsaving - I most certainly have been fleetsaving, but when his planets are so close to mine it only takes him about an hour to hit me, and thus if I even misjudge my fleetsave times marginally I leave myself open.

So next time please don't go round waving your flag and blowing your trumpet, accusing me of not fleetsaving or trying to avoid being hit. I wouldn't be posting about this here if I didn't consider it a last resort after trying everything else.

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PostSubject: Re: He got me again...   Tue Dec 23, 2008 10:07 am

If you dont have them already id try unlocking destroyers. Also build up your defences. The best are Rockets, Heavy Lasers, and Plasmas. If you have some destroyers and a decent defense, its usually enough to keep someone away. Also make sure you have at least 20 ABSs on your planets.

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PostSubject: Re: He got me again...   Tue Dec 23, 2008 10:13 am

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So next time please don't go round waving your flag and blowing your trumpet, accusing me of not fleetsaving or trying to avoid being hit. I wouldn't be posting about this here if I didn't consider it a last resort after trying everything else.


Who said I was blowing a trumpet?
OOO Indeed I Fleetsaved,Bullshit.
Then why was it a Spy & Fly??
You need to time your fleetsaves better, and read the fleetsave guide.


I'm guessing strategy games are not your best either.....
>_>

It quite easy to by pass all of it, you just deleted your way of doing it with those 60 fielders.

You do know you could of kept tha highest one and build it to where it has the capability of making a colony ship, and try building it there, after you've found the 200 or higher fielder(If that is what your looking for)
Delete the 60 fielder. Prob solved, You won't have to build it in the way of Gocaps.
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PostSubject: Re: He got me again...   Tue Dec 23, 2008 3:12 pm

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So next time please don't go round waving your flag and blowing your trumpet, accusing me of not fleetsaving or trying to avoid being hit. I wouldn't be posting about this here if I didn't consider it a last resort after trying everything else.


Who said I was blowing a trumpet?
OOO Indeed I Fleetsaved,Bullshit.
Then why was it a Spy & Fly??
You need to time your fleetsaves better, and read the fleetsave guide.


I'm guessing strategy games are not your best either.....
>_>


Lay off. People make mistakes. He's new to the game. I still make miscalculations in fleet saving. I rarely get hit because of it, but I don't have someone continually trying to farm me :/. One hour is long enough to get hit, even though it's not a huge amount. Plus if he's limited in colonies, he's also limited in fleet saving times. I can try talking to him if you want.

Keep trying for better colonies away from him. Don't get discouraged Smile. Can anyone in galaxy 1 hit/talk to him? I would attempt diplomacy for you, but have absolutely no leverage in this case.

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PostSubject: Re: He got me again...   Tue Dec 23, 2008 4:39 pm

To Justin:

That's what I'm trying to do in the long run, but unfortunately that would mean getting another two levels of both Hyperspace Tech and Drive, and that's an awful lot of Crystal for me as my highest level crystal mine is 18. Plasmas are also a wee way off Sad as I don't even have the pre-requisites for Plasma Tech yet.

To give you an idea what my tech levels are like, I only just managed to get Battleship capability a couple of weeks ago.

To ds:

I've contacted him once before and he seems to be a fairly ok person, it's just that he seems to hit me multiple times in preference to finding other targets who might be more worth the effort. I mean, the largest fleet I've ever assembled only gave me about 250 fleet points - which would have come out at around maybe 500k metal and 250k crystal in debris.

I've got several colony ships on their way to g6 now - they're currently...let's see...6 and 16 hours out (I had to send the at like 20% speed because they couldn't carry enough duet to go faster :p) so that should give me a chance to do some decent fleetsaving - although I'll also need an intermediate colony (g3 perhaps) so I can do fleetsaves in several trips, otherwise fleetsaving a fleet worth more than 150 points would use up just about all my duet in one go...

To Unstoppable:

Ok, I'll try doing that this time if the colonies are no good.
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Who said I was blowing a trumpet?
OOO Indeed I Fleetsaved,Bullshit.
Then why was it a Spy & Fly??
You need to time your fleetsaves better, and read the fleetsave guide.

Dude, calm down. I'm trying to get some advice here on how to avoiding getting farmed eternally and that's what you come up with?

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PostSubject: Re: He got me again...   Tue Dec 23, 2008 6:42 pm

Hellcats when was I ever not calmed.
I'm just stating my opinion, on what I thought of this.
This is not my alliance no more, I am merely here to pass on my
experience so that maybe, maybe some of my experience rubs off on you.
Just like TattoMan keeps saying Y'all need to learn from your mistakes, use your head in the game.
Just be cuz something is small doesn't mean its useless.

And indeed use what I said up on the other post that way even if you do make a under 200 fielder, you can just build the colony up to where it can build colony ships and send them from there, Saves, deut, and saves time.
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